hello...Roddy..well this seems to be a problem alot..unfortunately .because people seem to judge by appearance and not look at the heart..as to whether you should conform or not we will keep you in prayer on that...well know you have brothers and sisters here that think its great you wear eye liner...

Hi thanks for that
I think what really got me is that this youthgroup is supposed to be a place where you can be yourself. I have decided that im going to miss this months weekend because i think if i did go i would react angrily and the kids dont deserve that. Im going to talk to the person who is in charge at some point during the next mont and find out what the issues are with it and why she didnt say somthing to me at the weekend and waited three weeks before bringing it up. I dont think the issue is with the eyeliner in question but rather that i dont fit the mould that they would like.

I hope the group isn't one run by an old school and church friend of mine Simon Bailey? - He's now a youth worker in Scotland somewhere.

If so - let me know and I'll have words!! ;)

As you can see I'm in the UK and trying to get a few things started for Christian goths here.

Man looks at the outward appearance but God looks at the heart. There are a lot of misconstrued ideas in the church today.

Have you ever been to Greenbelt? I'm hoping to try and get along there in the summer to help run the Goth Eucharist.

Tell your youth leader that if they like they can chat to me about Goth culture and christianity. I'm currently working on this Ulfilas Christian Goth project with full backing of the Church of England. In fact it's a project that started in response to some stuff that Birmingham cathedral want to do.

There are some good resources on the christiangoth.com website in regards to challenges to churches regarding goth.

In fact Dr Raven, who's also on the forums here has written some articles that are featured on the site there. (He's great)

Tomorrow I'm meeting with a couple here in Birmingham diocese who are goths... Paul is a vicar. :)

Laters bro

Craig

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Please pray for me Im going to meet the director of firestarters today to discuss their problems with my style please pray i would say the right thing and not get angry